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19. December, 2012 Comment, Work experience and interning
This article has 45 comments

The internship auction demonstrates the need for young people to stand up for themselves

by Caroline Mortimer

Over the past six months, I’ve banged on pretty regularly about the injustice of unpaid internships for the Independent and pretty much anyone else who would have me.

So you could imagine I was appalled by the news that FHM, the New Statesman and even a local paper, the Cambridge News, were auctioning off unpaid work experience to the highest bidder.

Appalled but not shocked.

Of course the money raised was for a good cause, the British Olympic Association, and the companies involved were not directly financially profiting but this still demonstrates the normalisation of bad employment practices in the UK economy.

We have got to the point where people (or more likely their parents) are actually paying to go to work. That means getting up early, commuting, making countless cups of tea and expending time and mental energy on a project. I never understood why anyone should do that for free let alone pay for the privilege.

In a hundred years from now, economic historians may well look back on the weird, topsy turvy labour practices as the weirdest example of market failure in human history.

Unpaid internships are illegal in 99 per cent of cases. Whether or not companies can genuinely afford to pay them is another question but we have got to stop letting people sweep the issue under the rug.

Ex-Labour minister and Salford MP Hazel Blears introduced a 10 minute rule bill on banning the advertising of unpaid internships to the House of Commons at the end of last month. This would mean companies are not allowed to pretend they aren’t looking for the equivalent of an unpaid junior assistant then advertising for the position on jobs websites like Gorkana (whether it’s trading standards or employment law- some sort of law is being broken).

The reason they thought these were appropriate lots for the auction is because employers know they can be brazen and not only will HMRC turn a blind eye, gullible graduates will flock to them in their droves.

Candidates with as many as six internships on their CV a frequently told it’s the next one, the next one that will finally get them on the ladder. But it’s a lie. Whether you can afford to pay or not you should not agree to do an unpaid internship because it means there are fewer paying jobs. If you allow daddy to buy you a week of work experience at the local paper it makes it less likely there will be a job for you at the end, not more.

Without this sounding too much like a call to arms, we need to start standing up for ourselves rather than moaning. We always say ‘something must be done’ but now we need to start actually doing something.

David Cameron once said he was ‘relaxed’ about unpaid internships; not because he’s an upper class toff but because young people stereotypically don’t vote and when they do they don’t tend to vote Tory. Similarly, another of the Liberal Democrats pledges was to end unpaid internships, yet two years later a quick search on the Working for an MP jobs website shows the majority of theirs are still ‘voluntary’.

The reason interns don’t get paid is because employers don’t think they need to. There is always another gullible sap to take their place.

That is why we get internships ads like this one, which the author told the Irish Times was to avoid time wasters. He said he sees so many CVs from people who’ve done 6 internships or more and this obviously demonstrates that they aren’t good enough otherwise they would have got the job.

This is obviously untrue but demonstrates the disposability of young labour in media and elsewhere. It’s time to stop thinking that if we put up with all the crap now we’ll be rewarded later. Playing by other people’s rules is getting us nowhere; it’s time to make our own.

If we want respect it’s time to actually start demanding it.

 

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kev6185
kev6185 5pts

Please take a look at this blog run by a colleague of mine http://iansilvera.co.uk/internship-stories/

Brendy_C
Brendy_C 5pts

@wannabehacks Unpaid internships: Exploitative, cynical, baby-boomer bullshit.

travismarkriley
travismarkriley 5pts

@wannabehacks I am working a very part time unpaid internship that is exceptionally beneficial to me. It couldn't exist as a paid position.

daniellagraham
daniellagraham 5pts

@wannabehacks I think there's a difference between expenses-only and fully unpaid internships though...

Vikki_Hutton
Vikki_Hutton 5pts

@wannabehacks that their brand's value to our CV should be considered worth more than our living costs for 3 or 6 or 12 months.

Vikki_Hutton
Vikki_Hutton 5pts

@wannabehacks Yes, if we're fully qualified&doing valuable work. I don't think it's ok, for big names especially, to save pennies&suggest...

Vikki_Hutton
Vikki_Hutton 5pts

@wannabehacks Yes, if we are fully qualified & job worthy of pay. It's smug of top publications to exploit the value of their name on our CV

rhysdgriffiths
rhysdgriffiths 5pts

@wannabehacks But then don't they just become jobs?

wannabehacks
wannabehacks 5pts

@rhysdgriffiths I only object to unpaid internships, not internships amd temporary work placements themselves. ^CM

rhysdgriffiths
rhysdgriffiths 5pts

@wannabehacks I'm just genuinely interested in difference between a paid internship and temporary employment, with the rights that entails.

emilitoemilio
emilitoemilio 5pts

@wannabehacks Does a @pontifex shit in the woods?

TheBrettLeppard
TheBrettLeppard 5pts

@wannabehacks Internships? Yes. Work experience? No.

milanaknez
milanaknez 5pts

@wannabehacks But being lucky enough to have landed paid internship, can't see myself doing a free one. My time&effort worth *something*.

milanaknez
milanaknez 5pts

@wannabehacks For every person demanding pay, 100s behind him who'll do it for free, because they can. Classic prisoners dilemma.

dmjgoddard
dmjgoddard 5pts

@milanaknez @wannabehacks I'm not sure that's Prisoner's Dilemma...

MirandaDobson
MirandaDobson 5pts

@wannabehacks of course, expenses paid at the very least!

NicoleFroio
NicoleFroio 5pts

@wannabehacks I've stopped applying for unpaid internships. I cant afford to do it and I won't give it my all if I'm working weekends too.

JJone_s
JJone_s 5pts

@wannabehacks i think you should but not at a major rate. just more than enough to get by, because we can still do weekend jobs alongside.

lartonmedia
lartonmedia 5pts

@wannabehacks I don't have a problem with unpaid work experience for one or two weeks. I *do* have a problem when it stretches into months

JoMarieOReilly
JoMarieOReilly 5pts

@wannabehacks It effectively ensures that good media jobs will only ever go to those from a privileged background. Who wants that?

MorningBrighton
MorningBrighton 5pts

@JoMarieOReilly @wannabehacks What's the alternative? I reckon internships are more accessible than university or most qualifications.

JoMarieOReilly
JoMarieOReilly 5pts

@MorningBrighton @wannabehacks Most of the unpaid internships I have seen advertised require you to already have a degree!

MorningBrighton
MorningBrighton 5pts

@JoMarieOReilly @wannabehacks Yeah, it's outrageous to demand a degree for unpaid work. Only justifiable if open to people without degrees?

Razmazz
Razmazz 5pts

@wannabehacks YES. When you're working 2 jobs incl. the internship (MANY do this) then it's unfair. It also impacts social mobility a lot

ObligedtoOffend
ObligedtoOffend 5pts

@wannabehacks Also important to start demanding that column writing for the nationals is paid. If you work you should be paid for it.

RosyJee
RosyJee 5pts

@wannabehacks Unpaid work is the only way young unexperienced students can learn and of course gain contacts!

williams_ellie
williams_ellie 5pts

@RosyJee @wannabehacks you missed out rich in your description

RosyJee
RosyJee 5pts

@williams_ellie @wannabehacks As a trainee journalist I know plenty of people who do unpaid work and believe me few are rich!

RosyJee
RosyJee 5pts

@williams_ellie @wannabehacks Unpaid internships are something those who will do anything to get their dream job will do. Rich or not.

williams_ellie
williams_ellie 5pts

@RosyJee @wannabehacks unpaid internships are something only those privileged enough to be able to work for free can afford to do

CJMortimer
CJMortimer 5pts

@RosyJee @wannabehacks No an internship is the only way young experienced students can learn and gain contacts-it doesn't have to be unpaid.

RosyJee
RosyJee 5pts

@CJMortimer @wannabehacks Agreed but why would a company pay you if you're unexperienced? You could make any kind of mistake!

CJMortimer
CJMortimer 5pts

@RosyJee @wannabehacks Trainees and apprenticeships are historic, they've only been unpaid in the past 20 years.

CJMortimer
CJMortimer 5pts

@RosyJee @wannabehacks Because its illegal to not pay people for work...Seriously?

LauraDew24
LauraDew24 5pts

@wannabehacks It's when you have interviews for three months of fulltime unpaid work that it gets ridiculous. Interviews for free labour?!

mwallacejones
mwallacejones 5pts

@wannabehacks To be fair NS needs the cash! Via @MediaGuido Last year the @NewStatesman booked a loss of £1.4m or £27k-a-week

chris_mandle
chris_mandle 5pts

@wannabehacks if unpaid internships will be illegal, there needs to be an effort to define work exp too so that exploitation doesn't persist

LaurenceTGreen
LaurenceTGreen 5pts

@chris_mandle See also, out of office 'guest/voluntary' online content generation.

LaurenceTGreen
LaurenceTGreen 5pts

@chris_mandle Equally, if a lot of the companies shut shop completely and no longer offered them in any form, is that denying opportunity?

helloitsolly
helloitsolly 5pts

@LaurenceTGreen @chris_mandle This goes round in circles. If people don’t want to do it, they don’t have to.

chris_mandle
chris_mandle 5pts

@helloitsolly @laurencetgreen I agree. If people are happy to work for free that's a bit different to doing work exp for months on end.

LaurenceTGreen
LaurenceTGreen 5pts

@chris_mandle I imagine companies will always find a way around it. There will always be people desperate to do it.

lexiconflows
lexiconflows 5pts

@wannabehacks haha I thought the same!! Also think the whole thing is ludicrous.

JamieSmiff
JamieSmiff 5pts

@wannabehacks Yes, but there's zero chance of it ever stopping, as there will always be people rich/willing enough to work for free.

reghayes
reghayes 5pts

@wannabehacks Cambridge News?!

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